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Replies: 24Last Post Aug. 28 2:38pm by SocialistHero
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DayXTripper

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Read "Brave New World" By Aldous Huxley.

A communistic society doesn't allow people freedoms, therefore - in simple terms - slavery.

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What freedoms are in Capitalist society the freedom to work yourself to death the freedom to be exploited? How about the freedom to exploit the third world?

Slavery? What is slavery so wage Slaverys Ok.

Yet a society thats beyond this is bad?

A Brave New World?  Im guessing you view this as a one sided argument?


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Quote: from SocialistHero at 11:38 pm on Aug. 27, 2008

What freedoms are in Capitalist society the freedom to work yourself to death the freedom to be exploited? How about the freedom to exploit the third world?  

Slavery? What is slavery so wage Slaverys Ok.

Yet a society thats beyond this is bad?

A Brave New World? Im guessing you view this as a one sided argument?


Yes, capitalism allows someone the freedom to gain greater wealth or social status. Communism doesn't allow you the freedom to attain wealth greater than that of the poorest person, pretty shitty if you ask me. A person that is able to engineer nuclear weapons or power, should be paid more than the person mowing my lawn.

Not sure what you meant by one sided argument. ,

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So your considered above them?

You think you deserve better health care and education than someone because they are considered below you?


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Yes. If I choose to go to school and get a good job and work hard at it, then i deserve to have a better life than the homeless man downtown.

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Quote: from DayXTripper at 7:52 am on Aug. 28, 2008

Yes. If I choose to go to school and get a good job and work hard at it, then i deserve to have a better life than the homeless man downtown.

Thats a pretty optimistic view of capitalism-theres a fair chance homeless man downtown did all those things as well. Going to school and working hard don't equal succes.


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Quote: from DayXTripper at 2:27 am on Aug. 28, 2008

Communism is slavery.

Capitalism is slavery actually...

I am all for socialism but not how Marx was against religions.  I am a Christian and being one see from a Biblical perspective how capitalism goes against the Lord, and people.  Also, many things in my life and from what goes on in the world shows me even more that capitalism is evil and needs to be replaced with true socialism.

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Quote: from SocialistHero at 11:31 pm on Aug. 27, 2008

People died in Poverty because of Marx I think you need to look up your facts my friend. People also died in Poverty because of George Washington.

Marx was genuinely a good person no matter how bad you discredit him.


He was a genuinely good person but his philosophy was very flawed because he somehow failed to apply it to reality. Throw in the natural entropy of anything humans are involved in and communism always comes up short. Quite short.

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Communism is as crap as any other system.

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Dragonking thanks for backing me up.
The fact is that there is so much Propoganda about Communism people look at it bad because yes there were deaths caused by it. At the same time Communism saved lives, educated many and led by the best leaders.

Every american sees the unattractive side of this system. They dont want you to see what its like inside Kim Jong's North Korea. They want you to see a scary country led by Mass Murderers.  Many things have gone wrong during North Koreas time. It wasnt because Communism it was the way it waas implemented. I dont think I can stress this as much as I want to.

Americans need to use democratic socialism. The keyword here is Democratic meaning your constitution is still alive you have these rights still. This will control Americas poverty and is not as radical of a change as the plain straight Soviet communism. It will make your country a better place, and you can lead it.


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